I notice that some aircraft support real world Navigraph support and I've seen comments that some will not purchase an aircraft that doesn't support Navigraph. But what is the point? Obviously, in the real world things change, to include the exact location of the magnetic pole; so in the real world you do need very utd data to find your favorite Orbx airport.

But I'm flying in FSX - does FSX model magnetic pole movement? If not, and I assume not, what is the point of spending money on Navigraph, or other such, navigation aids?

Oct 25, 2015 - I just got the AIRAC cycle and i installed it through the FMS data manager but it still shows my FMC as out of date showing 1507 when it should.

There are multiple reasons, I guess. For example, if you fly online like on Vatsim or Ivao, a current or mostly current Airac cycle is neccessary to fly the procedures or waypoints given by ATC. Sometimes, there is lot of traffic in the virtual air like on real flight events, so if you are not able to follow the ATC instructions, it will become difficult and stressful for all participants. Or, if you want to follow the procedures for training purposes according to the actual charts, it make sense, also. The nav data that came with FSX is very basic and some years old, so a lot of waypoints or airways are not available in your planes navigation aids. If you are going to use online flight planning tools for a given route, you will probably not be able to conduct the flight as intended because the waypoints won't match.

It is not a must have, that's for sure. But, any add on scenery and any add on plane isn't it also.:-) The flight simulator works well with the old, not up-to-date database, with standard planes and standard world, the different add on's is the ice on th cake.

That's my 2ct. Cheers Thorsten. There is a lot more to IFR navigation than movement of the magnetic pole:-) If you want to fly real approaches and use real plates and follow real world procedures you need updated navigation data. Every month some of the navigation data changes; most frequently gps fixes and intersections. There are other changes that relate to ILS alignments etc.

There is also a guy who provides a rather nifty routine that updates the FSX internal navigation data to match the changes in each cycle. There are 3rd party navaids that use updated data to enhance the real world training benefit. Does that make more sense? I am a Navigraph subscriber and Charts because 90% of my flying is PMDG NGX or 777 or the Majestic Q400. I get all my routes from FlightAware and use Flight Sim Commander to compile them with the same SID/STAR flown from the real route that day. Navigraph keeps all my FMCs updated as well as Flight Sim Commander. Without Navigraph a lot of intersections are missing as the default install of FMCs are not an entirely complete database and way out of date by years now, so you wouldn't fly real routes the same day unless you want to manually add the missing intersections to your database yourself, which takes time.

Add the ones you need manually. It is a royal pain in the butt, BUT I've done it numerous times. You can add any intersection or way point necessary to fly any procedure into any flight plan you want - using pretty much any flight planner. I get real flight plans from Flightaware, etc. On a regular basis. I use Rex Essentials to download them, and save them as FSX flight plans.

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If you use Rex to do this, you need to open up the plan that Essentials spits out with the FSX flight planner, and then save it to a new file to get a 'regular' FSX flight plan. It will be missing any fixes or way points that aren't in the default FSX database Once you have that, the general steps are • Have the full, real flight plan handy - printed, or opened in Notepad • Open the flight plan in the default FSX planner • Compare the two, and use AIRNAV.com to get the lat / long of each of the missing way points • Using the map on the default FSX flight planner Edit tab, zoom so that you can see the red line connecting the way points. • Find the legs containing the missing way points, and drag the course line between the two existing way points a little bit. FSX will create a new way point, and it will appear in the flight plan as WP1, WP2, etc. Don't worry about where they actually are, just get a new way point created in the proper order in the flight plan.